Comments:

andreeb - 2005-03-11 12:59:46
You ARE the biggest dork ever :)) I, too, have high hopes for this last movie. the first two TRULY sucked. Lucas, you piss me off.
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Yodish - 2005-03-11 13:03:48
How wise you are - thinking you have been
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Kitty - 2005-03-11 13:04:42
Dork! But let me just say that I love Admiral Ackbar.
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Gumphood - 2005-03-11 13:06:30
I love Ackbar too. When he was all puppty and was surprised and was like... Its a trap.

He's so much better than those gay Japanesse Aliens.
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Kelly - 2005-03-11 13:16:41
My head is spinning at your complete and utter dorkness. I also now want to kill myself because I agree with everything you said.
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Andy - 2005-03-11 13:20:50
I've seen some of the stills from the new movie. I know why/how Vader wears the mask.

Anyhow Gump, I tried to follow your thought process on the hitting the exhaust port argument, and I think you are forgetting the port was at a 90 degree angle to the surface of the Death Star, as well as at the end of the trench. The kill shot needed to be head on, so the x wings needed to shoot while flying in the trench and then pull up to avoid hitting the wall that the port was on.

If you recall during the flight briefing, they stated that due to surface mounted cannons the best/safest path was to approach the Death star from it's least fortified side, enter the trench (which would be safer than flying directly in on it ) and then hit the exhaust port at straight on.

Did I miss anything? Not that I am a fan or anything.
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Kelly - 2005-03-11 13:22:18
Phew. after reading Andys comment, I dont feel so bad now! Thanks Andy!
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singlegirl - 2005-03-11 13:35:34
My Star Wars 2 cents? I was watching one of the movies in the theater when I was 2 or 3 (don't know which movie, but it would have been 1979 or 1980 ish), with my parents and got us kicked out. I don't remember this, but according to my mom, I was so in love with Chewbacca, that everytime he was on stage, I would jump up and down and scream, "Chewy" over and over again until his scene was done. I also started crying hysterically at one point because I thought he was going to die. To this day, I still find myself fond of the big furry guy, but I can at least restrain myself in the theater (fingers crossed).
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Gumphood - 2005-03-11 13:37:16
Oh. I remember, but listen...EVERYONE DIED besides Luke and Han Solo was just flying around outside the trench. Yeah. I agree. They wanted to avoid that shit from its least fortified side, but IF they could pull OUT of the trench, then they could have come AT IT from that angle. What I am saying is that they had to fly to the death star. That means they had to fly directly at SOME POINT on it. And if the hole was on the surface, why not fly right at the hole, and put it directly ahead of you, instead of dicking around in the trench. Okay. So lets put it this way. After Luke hits the shot, he pulls out right? Well, the death star doesn't blow up right then! Luke still has to fly away from it. And he makes it out! Why couldn't he make it in that way with everyone instead of having everyone one and their brother take them out on their lesuirly journey through the trenches of death staria. Also...how did the death star move around? Did It have a warp drive?
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Jimmy - 2005-03-11 13:38:50
Oh whoops. I didn't know this was a "fags only" discussion.
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Andy - 2005-03-11 13:45:54
Alrigh Gump. picture the DS as a beehive with a zillion angry bees swarming it. You got to approach as best as possible while not gettting shot. You end up flying all over the place to avoid getting blown up, but you know if you can get down into the trench, is the path with the least amount of enemy fire. Sure, you want to get into the trench to make the "head on" hit, as soon and as close to the port as possible, but given it's a combat situation, that maynot work. Remeber you've got a ton of fighters chasing you off. It's kinda like asking why doesn't a basket ball player just run up to the hoop?

I belive the empire employed Ion technology (TIE fighters = Twin Ion Engines). I would believe the DS would probably have the same but on a larger scale? ,/P> -------------------------------
Andy - 2005-03-11 13:56:11
thats fine Jimmy,we don't mind if your gay. Please tell us your thoughts.
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Gumphood - 2005-03-11 13:56:54
Okay. I give you cred for the basket ball comparison, but lets be honest. the point is you have to get TO the death star to get TO the trench.

Listen. In Jedi, they flew directly in there...WHY? Because thats exactly what they should have done in star wars. The death star is round.

Arriving at any point on a circle is the same as any other point!

The Empire didn't know what the rebels were going for because if they did they probably would have just put a steel shield up for like the 10 minutes until the attack was over.

So my point is, yes... in the space before getting to the death star they might not have been able to have a direct line, BUT, once they reach the death star, its dumb to have to fly all around it, they should have been near it.

(incidentially I have found only one logical solution to counter my statements here)
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Andy - 2005-03-11 14:04:05
well what is it?
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Gumphood - 2005-03-11 14:09:40
I have to diagram it.
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Anisettekiss - 2005-03-11 14:23:05
Wow. This is the hottest conversation the two of you ever had.
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BigPimpinMBA - 2005-03-11 14:29:02
I understand the theory that you are trying to forward and I agree from the engineering/science standpoint on the angle of attack. Andy definitely has a point with the port being at 90 degrees to the surface of the Death Star, so being in the trench made sense. Being in the trench would also discourage the big guns from firing on the Death Star itself.

What I don't understand is how that blast took a quick, 90 degree turn once it got into the exhaust port. This defies physics. I would say that it was some sort of guided missle, but it sure looked like a regular blast to me, none of which were turning in mid-space in the middle of other battle sequences or else they would be using those weapons all the time. All the lasers and blasts other than that one were travelling in straight lines. You could make the argument that the blast was basically a bomb that was dropped and used the gravity of the Star to pull it down to the core, but that loses credence when the blast actually travelled ahead of Luke's X-Wing. If he was really going to drop it to have the least forward projection (probably tearing through the other side of the exhaust port) he would have dropped the blast instead of "shooting it ahead"

On the point of the pulling up and having to get out by going at a 90 degree angle to the Star... At that point, they were really just going for the hit on the port and if they were able to get away, that would be a bonus. It makes perfect sense to go in along the trench to avoid the fortified part of the Death Star and then, just pull and pray to be able to get away because they would have to get away by the quickest available route just to survive.

And, yes. I'm a huge geek. But at least I never had a calculator watch.
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andy - 2005-03-11 14:41:58
The blast was not a missle, but an energy blast. Obviosly the port was a material that could conduct this energy.

We turning you on there Jenna?

I bent my Wookie.
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betty - 2005-03-11 14:42:02
And you drew out your theories supporting that you aren't a trekkie. marry me?
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Erika - 2005-03-11 14:44:52
Um, guys . . . it's just a movie.
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betty - 2005-03-11 14:46:33
JUST a movie?? blasphemy. Its an entire statement ON LIFE. It's human drama at its best and worst. All aspects of human nature. All future hopes and goals and past mistakes of humans combined into one. just a movie. please.
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Anisettekiss - 2005-03-11 14:48:13
See? Betty agrees. Nerds are effin HAWT. Yes, Andy, yess... right there baby. Stay on target... stay on target!
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betty - 2005-03-11 14:48:49
HEY who did I agree with??? I was just trying to disagree with someone. *points up* above me.
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Andy - 2005-03-11 14:52:48
ooh ohh. I got one.

In a steel cage death match (per WWF regulations) who would win: Captian Kirk or Han Solo?
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betty - 2005-03-11 14:55:40
this is probably for gump but I'll throw in my bent pennies on it:
Han Solo. -------------------------------
betty - 2005-03-11 14:56:08
wow the entire rest of my comment disappeared. interesting.
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Anisettekiss - 2005-03-11 14:56:55
Hmmm. I picture a stale mate. Both of them standing in tight shirts pointing guns at each other saying witty and sarcastic things until people decide to get up and leave.
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Anisettekiss - 2005-03-11 15:02:39
...I'm a luke fan. By the way, I wanted to mention that I would have been fine if they didn't make episodes one through three. I'd MUCH rather see 7, 8, and 9 instead.
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bethany - 2005-03-11 15:23:09
gump, you just dropped from #3 to #26 on my list of "guys i haven't banged but i wanna"
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BigPimp - 2005-03-11 15:24:21
LUKE??? LUUUUUKKKKEEEE?? I'm so disappointed, Annisette. Luke is such a whiner. I can't even listen to him when he is on Tattooine.... "BUT AUNT LAROOOOOOOO!!!!"

Solo rules.... "Laugh it up, fuzzball." His whole smartass thing is the best

The only character that is anywhere near as cool in Star Wars is Fett, although I liked him loads better when we didn't know any back-story.

As for the fight, it depends on if you are talking with our without weapons/gadgets. If no gadgets, I go with Solo. He's not above a swift kick to the cajones.
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bethany - 2005-03-11 15:25:14
and holy shitstains! you inly updated 2 hours ago and have 28 comments! I know it's the same 5 people, but daaaaaaaamn. work it out, gump! daddy make me feel AIIIIIIGHT!
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Gumphood - 2005-03-11 15:35:35
Okay. First. Kirk is better hand to hand. Han is better with weapons or getting away. Honestly. I would never want to fight Kirk hand to hand. He would kill an alien hand to hand. He's like a bar room ninja.

I always like to think of it as in "intake" and so the enegry blasts were sucked in.

I was hoping someone would come up with the answer below. I'm disappointed.

Q.E.D.
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Gumphood - 2005-03-11 15:37:47
Oh, and honestly...Kirk vs Chewey. It would be hard for me to not take the underdog bet on Kirk.
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Andy - 2005-03-11 15:52:25
Yes, a straight line is the fatest route .

The plan was hit to the Death Star in waves: while some squadrens where makeing a run to get into the trench as fast as possible, other squadrens were providing cover fire.

If they could have flown directly to the port they would have done so, However, their path to the trench was dictated by making a run while still trying to stay in in some form of protective formation, and how far off course they got trying to avoid fire.


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Andy - 2005-03-11 15:53:02
Picard and Solo?
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Gumphood - 2005-03-11 16:08:22
Picard is the smartest, but Solo is just a better fighter. He's gritty. I'll take solo...

I wonder about in a dog fight.
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Megin - 2005-03-11 16:14:53
*yawns* *scratches butt* Oh...diagrams.
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betty - 2005-03-11 16:22:14
Seriously Solo had onnections to the seddy underworld of star wars. He would kick ass. Seriously.
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jessica - 2005-03-11 16:47:57
I just wanted to make a few comments here. 1. between kirk and solo it would be kirk, because kirk would sit on solo and end up crushing is ribcage cause he was a chub butt. 2. No one can beat chewie...i wouldn't try, i would give him a hug, he is adorable. Also, i agree with gump, why fly all the way around the damn thing when you could have entered at any point. forizzle.
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Han Solo - 2005-03-11 16:51:17
Gumps comments make me wish I was frozen back in carbonite.
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Procrasto - 2005-03-11 17:08:24
Yeah. I was..um..there when we made the trip man. It was, like brutal man. We were dropping like flies and being buzzed around, and then he ship went down. 2000 men in the water. Shark in the water... oh ....wait...
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Nicole - 2005-03-11 21:02:14
Ahh. Yes. Truly. A dork you are, Gump. And a dork am I! Yes. Hurm. I'm with Betty and Anisettekiss - nerds are hot! Kirk VS Han Solo: Kirk would get his ass handed to him by Han Solo! Of course, if anybody's going to be getting sweaty in a cage with Han Solo, I'd rather it be me than 'ole Kirk. ;) Kirk VS Chewbacca: Hmmmm. That's a toughie. If Chewy had the Tribbles on his side I'd put my money on him. Sure, they look cute but I've heard they'll gnaw your feet off if you corner 'em. Picard VS Solo: I'm a Picard fan but I'm still going with Solo on this one. He's just so damn cool. I agree with Gump and Jessica: Why the hell DID they fly all the way around!? It boggles the mind.
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Samantha - 2005-03-11 21:50:55
Gump, have I got a site for you:

http://totl.net/StarQuotes/

First sign up for some eDrogna (pretend cash), and then use your Star Wars IQ to gamble for more. It's totally geared to dorks like us. I mean you. This is also a good one: http://www.microsith.com/fence-interview.php3
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Barbionna - 2005-03-11 23:44:28
I barely passed geometry and flunked trig twice. MATH IS HARD!
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Anisettekiss - 2005-03-12 08:41:25
BigPimp - Whatever. I whined like a bitch at that age too. Besides, I was going through my "blond years" when Star Wars came out. I was in love with Luke Skywalker, Bo Duke and Brian Setzer. Luke had more of a bad-ass-boy-next-door-jedi vibe goin on. I mean, when you played Star Wars with your friends, did you want to use the force to kick their ass or did you want to run around with a gun? Ummm. I meant IF you were playing Star Wars with your friends... I didn't play that. *looks around* Okay I did. Wanna make something of it!?
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Ginger - 2005-03-12 16:38:54
I wish that I could date you.
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melanie - 2005-03-14 09:26:10
Too many comments for me to read through and see if someone else already mentioned this but not EVERYONE died while trying to blow up the deathstar. Wedge was hit and had to go back but he didn't die. He was one of the few "red-shirts" to make it through all three of the movies. I wonder how I know all this. Can I still be considered a girl?
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chillier - 2005-03-15 09:27:13
Oh. My. Are you one of those people that sat through an entire episode of the OC just to catch the two minute trailer? Cause unfortunately I am thanks to my geektastic life partner. The OC? Sucks.
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